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  • #40687
    moggy1923
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        Hi

        read another story of child drowing in pool,  this one in Spain

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2185922/British-girl-2-dies-holiday-Spain-falling-hammock-swimming-pool.html

        Here is a reminder of what happened on a beach in Portugal a few years ago in October, slightly out of season

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7057412.stm

        I say slightly out of season, as have noticed on Crete, many popular beaches, have sunbeds that you pay for.  It was explained to me, those beaches are responsible for providing a Life Guard.
        Most of them are only during the middle season/ high season.  Many of them in October do not provide the pay sunbeds or the Lifeguard.

        If you are going to a beach that seems deserted check with the local taverna or beach bar how safe the beach / sea is that day, unless you recognise the flag colours yourself.

        There are many beautiful beaches on Crete & depending on the weather, many are safe.
        Remember to keep a check on the weather and tides.  If you are adult/s with child/ren
        perhaps you should check it yourself first

        Have a lovely holiday and lets all try to reduce these accidents in Europe

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        Herby
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            63616969770E0 wrote:
            If you are going to a beach that seems deserted check with the local taverna or beach bar how safe the beach / sea is that day, unless you recognise the flag colours yourself.

            If the beach is deserted do not assume that the flags have been updated!

            I also fail to see the relevance of mentioning lifeguards. People need to take responsibility for their own and their childrens safety and not rely on total strangers to save them.

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            brian c
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                I agree Herby, and without meaning to sound cold about any previous accidents of which I know no details, adults need to be responsible for their own kids …as most are, but not all.
                keep your eyes on them and keep them safe.

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                moggy1923
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                    If the beach is deserted do not assume that the flags have been updated!

                    I also fail to see the relevance of mentioning lifeguards. People need to take responsibility for their own and their childrens safety and not rely on total strangers to save them.

                    Herby & Brian, Thanks for your responses.

                    Herby good point re the Flags

                    Fair comment ref Life Guards,      had not intended it to be for people to think Life Guards should take responsible for their children or themselves

                    The first link I provided in the OP was to a very recent/current fatal pool accident to a Toddler.  Condolences to the family/friends.

                    The 2nd link was an accident 5 years ago in late October.

                    Not sure believe it involved 6 children & 6 adults.  Something happened with the children

                    "The waters around the rock where they go to swim… it’s relatively calm but they have very strong winds, very strong currents.”

                    Four adults had fatalities all children were saved.  The forth adult was a German Tourist.

                    At the time reading the article I dismissed it as people not taking care.
                    It was later pointed out to me, that two children were orphaned and another two lost a parent & the repercussions around that for the children & their relatives/friends would be permanent.

                    Neither incident happened in Greece / Crete.

                    For my own self, in my life I have had close calls. I got left behind at school the Care Taker took me home.  Once I lost my younger sister & her friend in the park, they were found safely.  On a beach in Crete that I was unfamiliar with, when lying sun-bathing, my lilo got blown away & out to sea quickly.   At the time saw the winds and sea, so took it as luck, I was not laying in the sea on it.

                    I certainly would be more vigilant with children and water.

                    I sometimes noticed with groups, that at least one of the adults would take it in turns to distance themselves from the group each day solely to keep watch un-distracted.

                    Unfortunately some people on holiday can get distracted.

                    There are different Rules in Greece to private and public pools.  When I say public I am including pools provided by hotels & other complexes

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                    latsida
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                        maybe this warning is more relevant at the moment ;)

                        http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/aug/15/foreign-office-brits-die-balcony-falls

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                        moggy1923
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                            4E4356514B4643220 wrote: maybe this warning is more relevant at the moment  ;)

                            http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/aug/15/foreign-office-brits-die-balcony-falls

                            Yes accidents/fatalies from balconies accidents mainly in Spain.

                            quote the penultimate paragraph of your link:-

                            "Many young people also arrive without travel insurance. The FCO can’t pay medical bills and holidaymakers may end up paying out thousands for medical bills and flights back to the UK."

                            Annual (12 months) Travel insurance for most people is so reasonable.  When I say most, I mean with the exception of things like if you recently had brain operation Or if you are going to take part in certain activies, like Ski-ing.
                            I take annual travel insurance for Europe.  If my life changes and I go to USA or take up ski-ing I can pay the difference and upgrade it for remainder of year.

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                            latsida
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                                if you deliberately jump off the balcony whilst trying to do something foolish would that invalidate your insurance?

                                I used to have free travel insurance if I booked the holiday with my credit card 8-)

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                                latsida
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                                    A few years ago we were at Stalida beach and the sea was so rough that swimming was not allowed.
                                    the danger flags were flying and the lifeguards had whistles to alert people who went into the water.
                                    however some people were still paddling in the water and one man decided to swim out just a few yards but soon got into difficulties and had to be rescued by the life guard who himself was attached by rope and carrying a lifebuoy.
                                    no matter what the risks there is always someone who thinks they can do what they want and the rules do not apply to them.

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                                        0C011413090401600 wrote: no matter what the risks there is always someone who thinks they can do what they want and the rules do not apply to them.

                                        Sorry to be pedantic but lifeguards have no legal right to prevent you swimming. They can only advise. Ditto beach flags.

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                                        latsida
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                                            exactly, so it does not matter about the original post
                                            your life is in your own hands ,my point exactly
                                            plus it don’t help with the insurance :D :D

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