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  • #21052
    boot sale
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        Topdriller
        Yes I’m sharing (warning) it with buyers not the already bought, you want to be an arm chair critic so be it.
        Of course already bought will read it, fair play and hope will warn it to their friends thinking of buying here.
        But if you only want to nit pick find fault, then what has it got to do with you.

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        #21060
        Topdriller
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            Boot Sale,

            I’m fairly certain the builder in question will be following the discussions as they unfold on this forum. I’m also fairly certain he or she will have a different point of view. And as Lin said in an earlier post, businesses fail even if they’ve been set up and run with the best of intentions. A number of building operations over here – just like the UK – are run by builders, not businessmen per se and whilst they may be good at building houses, they’re perhaps not so good at running the business needed to build said houses.

            I sincerely hope you manage to resolve the situation you find yourself in.

            Jon

            #21066
            boot sale
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                Topdriller
                I hope we can resolve this situation, we wish you all the best for the future.
                Please understand we have lost a fortune, what is to us a fortune.
                We have nothing else to loose, so when we feel trapped or shoved into a corner we will fight you or others.
                We will not apologise for that our mentality, If we sat with you and talked through what and how things proceeded with Cretagora you would begin to understand.
                14 other couples would be included in our chat, but right now we are on our own.

                Regards Roy and Carol

                #21072
                boot sale
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                    We wrote a daily note book of events, from 2005 to date.
                    More so after we were told that we had no need of a lawyer til end of build, if you would like to read our personnel notes from 2005 til 2008 only.
                    Please PM us, telling us your email and the name you use on BIC, we will send you the written events.
                    Best regards.       Roy and Carol.

                    #21078
                    boot sale
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                        Thanks, give me a few hours to sort the note book, all those who asked should reading our personnel notes before
                        noon today.

                        Roy and Carol

                        #21084
                        anne-marie
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                            Hi Bootsale.
                            Sorry to read of your problems, don’t have chance to open up BIC much am just really busy!

                            I understand your problem and can assure you that you are not the only one to have had problems, it’s happened to many. What I can’t understand is why you bother with top driller. He seems to think that he is an expert on every-thing. Building, publishing, Greek mentality and the list goes on. Maybe he should concentrate more on getting a life rather giving us he’s expert, very long winded, opinion on every-thing and go out in to the world rather than be stuck to computer all day.

                            Sorry top driller, your probably a knowledgeable person. But every-time I open up a thread there you are telling some-one, in not a very nice way, how we are all getting it wrong and how much you know.

                            #21090
                            Ken1
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                                787C666760727F767772787A130 wrote: Hi Bootsale.
                                Sorry to read of your problems, don’t have chance to open up BIC much am just really busy!

                                I understand your problem and can assure you that you are not the only one to have had problems, it’s happened to many. What I can’t understand is why you bother with top driller. He seems to think that he is an expert on every-thing. Building, publishing, Greek mentality and the list goes on. Maybe he should concentrate more on getting a life rather giving us he’s expert, very long winded, opinion on every-thing and go out in to the world rather than be stuck to computer all day.

                                Sorry top driller, your probably a knowledgeable person. But every-time I open up a thread there you are telling some-one, in not a very nice way, how we are all getting it wrong and how much you know.

                                I maybe going off topic a bit here but then thats the way threads go sometimes.

                                Other than Christine (Latsida) who is excellent at helping people to find answers to problems here,Topdriller is a good source of information and has a good knowledge of Crete.
                                I for one enjoy his, your words:long winded posts which are usually very well informed.

                                Ken.

                                #21096
                                x5kmt
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                                    0A3838020A343131245D0 wrote: Other than Christine (Latsida) who is excellent at helping people to find answers to problems here,Topdriller is a good source of information and has a good knowledge of Crete.

                                    So Ken, you appear to assume by your comment that having married a Cretan, raised a family and run a busy family business in Crete for a considerable time, Anne Marie is not qualified to express an informed opinion or offer sound advice on life and customs in Crete :o

                                    Think you got it wrong there, big style. Perhaps she simply doesn’t have as much time to spend sitting in front of a computer.

                                    Kathleen

                                    #21102
                                    Topdriller
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                                        Kathleen,

                                        Regulars to this site will know that if Ken said grass was green you’d say it was red. Only you know why that is.

                                        Ann Marie is just as entitled to give her opinion on this site as I am, which is why I’ve not felt it necessary to reply to her more personal observations.

                                        Likewise, Ken never said or indeed appeared to assume – as you now seem to be suggesting – that Ann Marie’s comments were any less worthy re her interpretation of life here on Crete. He simply said he had a different point of view re her comments about my previous contributions. Just like Ann Marie, he is entitled to make his own observations.

                                        And just to clarify a little further, I’ve been in personal contact with Roy and Carol (Bootsale) and have offered to put them in touch with several people who may be able to help them with their situation – one of whom is a well respected judge here in Chania.

                                        I only mention this because some of us often do more than just pontificate on this site.

                                        Jon

                                        #21108
                                        eranim
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                                            Member since: 15th September 2009

                                            Jon so pleased to hear that you have been in touch with Roy and Carol as they deserve as much help as we can give them.

                                            Lin

                                            #21113
                                            x5kmt
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                                                556E716573686D6D6473010 wrote: I only mention this because some of us often do more than just pontificate on this site.

                                                Jon

                                                Having been a member of this site since its earliest and original incarnation by Geoff I have done a lot more than ‘pontificate’ on the sites, and had you been a member for as long you would be aware of that.

                                                Like Lin, I am pleased you have taken the time to contact Roy and Carol about their problem, as I have with several others who found themselves in similar circumstances in my own area. I agree they deserve as much assistance as we can give them. One can not help but feel sympathy for them, some of us have been very fortunate in our aquisition of Greek property, and have not had the heartbreaking experience of dealing with unscrupulous builders and their agents.

                                                Kathleen

                                                #21118
                                                eranim
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                                                    Hi Kathleen
                                                    Yes a lot of us have been very fortunate with our properties which is why I keep saying we must help those less fortunate than ourselves if we can. Even if it is only moral support it helps Roy and Carol, and others like them, to know that there are people out there they can talk to. A problem shared etc etc.

                                                    Lin

                                                    #21123
                                                    Ken1
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                                                        Quote x5kmt
                                                        Having been a member of this site since its earliest and original incarnation by Geoff I have done a lot more than ‘pontificate’ on the sites, and had you been a member for as long you would be aware of that. End quote.

                                                        Kathleen,I really do not understand where you are coming from sometimes.

                                                        The length of time you are a member of this site has no bearing on experience.

                                                        If you are a holiday homer or live here for a short time each year you can have absolutely no idea what its like to live here all year round.

                                                        When I was researching coming to Crete to live I took on board the experiences of those who lived here to a larger degree than those like yourself who came here once or twice a year on holiday.

                                                        Topdriller lives here so his advice is more relevant in my opinion.

                                                        To keep on topic I am very sympathetic to Roy and Carol but I cannot solve their problem.Jon on the other hand has contacts and is probably doing much more for them than I could so please leave this matter to those with the experience.

                                                        Some day when you decide to live here permanently you will appreciate the help of other residents.

                                                        Just my opinion of course and others may not agree :-/

                                                        Ken.

                                                        #21128
                                                        boot sale
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                                                            The offer to read our dairy of events from 2005 is still available, please send a PM with your email address we promise not to use your email addess for any other use.

                                                            With regards, Roy and Carol.

                                                            #21133
                                                            latsida
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                                                                If you are in the process of litigation surely you should not reveal your case to anyone who wants to read it, is this wise?

                                                                #21138
                                                                boot sale
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                                                                    latsida
                                                                    Yes you are right, its just that when you read "Whats being said" is total exaggeration is so totally out of proportion.
                                                                    That its beyond recognition, to what is reality.

                                                                    With respect, Roy and Carol   

                                                                    #21143
                                                                    boot sale
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                                                                        xxxxxxxStatements deleted by admin.

                                                                        I take full responsibilty of my actions what I said, so if its so bad let xxxxxxxxxx take me to court, I dare them to, let them put their money where their mouth is as we did when we took advice.

                                                                        Now what have said so wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
                                                                        Or is it because I have no money that my words are deleted, very one sided me thinks.

                                                                                   >:(                

                                                                        #21147
                                                                        eranim
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                                                                            Roy and Carol keep up the fight. Comments Deleted by admin xxxxxxx

                                                                            It is a shame but there seem to be more and more people suffering at the hands of people who seem only to be here to make a lot of money for themselves and a lot of misery for others.

                                                                            We all came here chasing the ‘dream’ and there are many following in our footsteps.  It’s only fair to the followers that they have as much knowledge as possible so they can, with luck, avoid the problems and heartaches of their predecessors.

                                                                            #21151
                                                                            admin
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                                                                                Roy and Carol

                                                                                Please stop using this forum as part of your personal weapon to not just argue your case publicly against  a party with whom you have a disagreement that is possibly before a court but also to make accusations. You are involving this forum in legal matters that do not concern us. This forum is to remain neutral.

                                                                                Other members are reminded not to join in with accusatory or sympathetic statements when you do not know all the facts – no matter how personally sympathetic you may be to the circumstance of this couple.

                                                                                As admin I have given ample opportunity for this couple to air their grievances but to make statements that may or may not be defamatory is an issue I am not prepared for this forum to become embroiled in.

                                                                                This is not a personal matter, this is a matter of common sense and to know where to draw the line to protect the interest of this web site.

                                                                                I have drawn the line.

                                                                                Thank you for your understanding.

                                                                                Gerald

                                                                                PS You have already aired your grievances across several threads over several years and there has been much discussion. I think the subject has run its course. You have had ample opportunity to air your views and the opposing party has responded. They still have rights as much as you. Your continued "baiting" them through this forum is no longer acceptable.

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