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    Topdriller
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        What I find a little strange is that a number of black people (usually the younger generations) call each other ‘nig***’ when greeting one another on a friendly basis e.g. ‘Whatsup nig***’.  It’s also used as a confrontational term when say one black gang meets up with another black gang.  In other words it can be used – by young black folk – as a term of endearment (slang) or a term of aggression.

        I guess this is no different from the word ‘bad’ which our generation thinks of one way but the youth of today sometimes use to describe an action which is good, cool, trendy etc.

        However, you would have thought that the ‘N’ word had such bad connotations that it should not be used by anyone?  It just goes to show that if you’re black / coloured you can use it without recrimination but if you’re white and use it – even in the above slang / endearment context – you could end up in court.

        Call me old fashioned but if this word is rightly deemed ‘bad’ then shouldn’t anyone using it, regardless of their colour, end up in court?  If not then there would seem to be a law which specifically targets people  based solely on the colour of their skin.

        Somewhat ironically, this site changes the word ‘nig***’ to ‘black person’ which seems to be a totally wrong way to circumvent this particular word!!

        Jon

        ps And yes, the topic may seem contentious but perhaps that’s the good thing that will come out of the Terry / Ferdinand outburst i.e. we’ll all actually think about the word, it’s use, whether anyone should use it etc.

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            it is a way of negating the word Jon .

            many people take a word that denigrates them and use it for themselves thus taking the "sting" out of it , after all it is only a word.
            it is only the way and context in which it is used that causes offence, if you take that away then the impact has gone.

            Love is a beautiful word but if some bloke called me " love "I would probably retaliate in kind

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                Why is that then Love.
                I believe Mr Jon Topdriller has been watching too many late night movies based on New York.
                I have lived in a big City full of blacks all my life and never have I heard one black guy say to another black guy, Hi nigger. What they do say is (Hey Man) Jamacan slang and a greeting they all use even to us whitie’s
                Call them Niggers, then they shoot you, unless of course you are wearing a Man City shirt then they call you brother.

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                    Who changed that to black person

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                        Del Boy, just because you’ve not heard it doesn’t mean it’s not true.

                        Jon

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                            172C3327312A2F2F2631430 wrote: Tennis is hardly a contact sport, Christine. I’d also point out that most football players, although not all, are not exactly the sharpest chisels in the tool box.

                            Jon

                            no they definitely aren’t,
                            see here

                            the link would not work but this is from today’s Telegraph


                            The moment of misunderstanding in the trial arose when Terry was asked to repeat the evidence that he had been sent off four times in his career, so the court could hear him.
                            “Can you say, please, four times?” asked his QC, George Carter-Stephenson.
                            “Please, please, please, please,” Terry responded.
                            Huge laughter broke out around the courtroom.”>Terry, 31, is accused of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand during a Premier League match between Chelsea and QPR on October 23 last year. Terry denies the charge.
                            The moment of misunderstanding in the trial arose when Terry was asked to repeat the evidence that he had been sent off four times in his career, so the court could hear him.
                            “Can you say, please, four times?” asked his QC, George Carter-Stephenson.
                            “Please, please, please, please,” Terry responded.
                            Huge laughter broke out around the courtroom.
                            Terry, for his part, looked bemused at the response.

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                                Thats the FA off the hook then.

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