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  • #26423
    yiannisandeve
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        Hi everyone,

        Hope yous can help. Me and my partner are looking to move to Crete on November the 1st. I am English and dont speak Greek however I am very flexible with regards to the kind of work I do and very VERY willing to learn Greek. My partner is in the exact same circumstance however the difference being he can speak Greek and is of Greek origin. We have many questions to ask although it is difficult as we have no point of contact in Crete and we have no-where to start really.

        So basically we need advice on job availability In November anywhere in Crete?

        we need advice on whether there is facilities available to learn Greek at a lo cost?

        How easy/accessible is it to obtain social security numbers/national insurance numbers?

        Do we require medical certificates?

        How much money would be required to make a start in our life over there?

        We are not looking to buy as of yet so is there plenty of rental accommodation avaliable on a no-contract basis?

        Because I am English and dont speak Greek Id like to be close-by to other English people, where is the most English populated area in the winter?

        Also is there a good standard of living? Any other advice yous can give would be much appreciated as we really do have no knowledge of the area or any points of contact!

        Thanks!

        Eve and Yiannis  :D 

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        #26917
        poohbear
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            2F3F3738383F252224666661560 wrote: So basically we need advice on job availability In November anywhere in Crete?

            The majority of jobs in Crete are seasonal so arriving in November looking for work isn’t necessarily going to be useful, although you might be lucky to find someone who is looking for staff for the following season.

            How easy/accessible is it to obtain social security numbers/national insurance numbers?

            You need to get a AFM number from your local tax office.  If you are entitled to health care you will get an IKA number from your local IKA office.  I think you will also get an AMKA number there too.

            Do we require medical certificates?

            Not to my knowledge!

            How much money would be required to make a start in our life over there?

            How long is a piece of string. It really depends on your lifestyle…

            We are not looking to buy as of yet so is there plenty of rental accommodation avaliable on a no-contract basis?

            It really depends on your landlord.  We got a 2 year lease but could leave before that if we had wanted to.

            Because I am English and dont speak Greek Id like to be close-by to other English people, where is the most English populated area in the winter?

            Depends what part of the island you are planning to move to.

            #27223
            Kathiana
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                Jobs are going to be difficult. I don’t want to be the voice of doom and gloom so I’ll stop there. Good luck.

                #27454
                yiannisandeve
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                    Hi thanks for the replys although I must admit they have got me down. I do realise that most of the work is in the summer – thats the obvious – and the difficult part is getting work in the winter which is the exact reason Im on this site. And researching is difficult when there are only so many sites you can visit and they all say pretty much the same stuff. Im under no illusions its going to be difficult however surely its not impossible? Me and my partner are both In our early 20’s and are very keen and we wont be pushed aside by negativity or a little bit of hard-work, were both willing to do any kind of work to get us started and build from there. I dont believe for a second that the English community deem it so hard over there in wintertime otherwise they simply wouldnt be there on a year-round basis. Also I truly dont believe that we need a mountain of money to get the ball rolling so…..thanks for the advice I know that yous are maybe trying to prevent a disaster haha however as the forum question says I am simply looking for advice/contacts/ideas etc which Im sure many of you already have. Hopeully something better comes along…..thanks again

                    Yiannis

                    #27627
                    poohbear
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                        63737B747473696E682A2A2D1A0 wrote: researching is difficult when there are only so many sites you can visit and they all say pretty much the same stuff.

                        they all say pretty much the same stuff because it’s the way it is and we don’t wear rose-tinted glasses.

                        I know very few non Greeks who are able to work in the winter.  It’s not through lack of trying but there is just nothing around and this winter is not looking like it is going to be any better.

                        Don’t assume that because you are very keen and don’t mind hard work that you will suddenly have loads of job offers flooding in.  There are lots of us already living in Crete who are also very keen and don’t mind hard work but just can’t find any.

                        Many of the expats that we know, rely heavily on the winter money that they get after working for 2 seasons and getting their IKA paid.  Many returned to the UK last year because their employer could not afford to pay them and pay their IKA on top of that, so they didn’t have enough stamps to get the winter money.  Many more are going to return to the UK this year as it is the 2nd year that they haven’t had IKA payments made for them.

                        Also I truly dont believe that we need a mountain of money to get the ball rolling

                        If you are still determined to come over in November, you will need to assume that you will not get work until the following summer.  In that case you will need to be self supporting from November until possibly the end of May (I say end of May because you might be lucky and be able to start work at the beginning of May if it’s busy enough but you might not get paid until the end of the month) so you will have rent, bills and food to pay for 7 months.  You also then have to factor in that it might be a bad season again and you might only get 4 months work and will then have to support yourself again over the winter.

                        so…..thanks for the advice I know that yous are maybe trying to prevent a disaster haha however as the forum question says I am simply looking for advice/contacts/ideas etc which Im sure many of you already have. Hopeully something better comes along…..thanks again

                        Take the rose-tinted glasses off and listen to advice from people who are actually living and working here.

                        If you don’t want to listen to advice that you have asked for then that’s fine and all I’ll say is good luck.

                        #27763
                        Fowles
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                            Have to agree with PoohBear – Obviously, it’s not what you want to hear but a disaster is exactly what will become you on the information that you have divulged. The only winter jobs that would normally be available would be building work which is mostly taken by Greeks first, then the cheaper labourers mostly Eastern European – with respect you wouldn’t stand a chance as everybody is scraping around for work now and the building trade is finsihed for the moment! If you wanted to pick olives you could earn around 30-40 euros a day for 8 hard hours work. This is seasonal work again and will last at most 2-3 months. Please listen to us the folks who live here and understand this situation, we are not being negative, we are being realistic!

                            #27871
                            moggy1923
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                                Hi, first off I agree with previous replies.

                                But you still appear determined to come on Nov 1st?

                                what amount of money are you thinking of coming with?

                                as no idea what you mean by "Also I truly dont believe that we need a mountain of money to get the ball rolling so."

                                Eve you say you dont speak Greek, could you imagine a Greek female turning up in UK and trying to find work, what chance would she have in UK with so many out of work chasing vacancies.

                                Have you both visited Crete previously?

                                As far as renting somewhere to live on Crete, many of the tourist accommodation is summer accommodation & is left empty in the winter because it is summer accommodation. Ie the buildings are built to keep the heat out, so in the winter they are very cold, might even suffer from dampness. I say that as maybe you think you could one of those cheaper in the winter, with out realising the pitfalls.

                                Many brits on crete are either semi retired or fully retired, so that is how they afford to be there all year round. There was a recent posting on this site, about a chap and his partner who only work in the summer. They were able to save most of their money in the summer to survive in the winter when they usually could not find work. Some of the people who only work in the summer and stay without work in the winter, then live an incredible simply life-style in the winter, rarely going out to wine/dine.

                                It is not that you are not both welcome to visit Crete, but members want you to realise it would be extremely tough to find an income in the winter on Crete. Also you need to think about the expense of your transport on Crete – how are you going to get around?

                                I will also send you a pm. all good wishes

                                #27955
                                Kathiana
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                                    It used to be that one would make enough money in the summer to last you through the winter – IKA or no IKA. Ah, the good old days. Not now though.

                                    Many northern europeans here are living in what I, personally, would call poverty. That’s just based on my own standards and depends what you want out of life.

                                    The reason so many people are telling you that it’s very, very difficult here now, is because it’s very, very difficult here now. There are no secrets, contacts, or ideas. There just isn’t any.

                                    #28022
                                    The Ralphs
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                                        Yianni & Eve,

                                        Please take note/heed the information that is being offered above & will probably continue in the same vain…….it is not that people are trying to protect "their corner of paradise", the harsh reality are that times have changed.

                                        My advice to you both, you are in your early 20’s. Postpone your move until April/May of 2011…….come & find cheap accommodation, look for work (with luck & determination you will find summer work)……….enjoy the three S’s, experience the culture, drink, party & party. At the end of the summer you can then make an educated opinion as to whether you can really make a life here………If not you can return home with an enjoyable life experience under your belt & knowledge that will help you make a life changing decision in the future.

                                        Wish I had done a similar thing when I was in my 20’s.

                                        Jim

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                                        Binx
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                                            DON`T DO IT …!!!

                                            All replying to your questions are advising you , heed their wise words and wait.

                                            We retired here and lucky we had a decent deal on the house in the UK, thus having a little nest egg to live on.

                                            I have noticed that since tax on food has gone up, it is very difficult to manage now more than ever. The amount of house keeping money I allow myself has had to be upped by 50 euro`s since the last three weeks, and I had little change after shopping for the usual goods we shop for.

                                            You are both young, don`t be in a hurry to move here at a time of year when there are no jobs to be had, it will be the biggest mistake you will ever make.

                                            #28118
                                            stick
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                                                3B2B232C2C2B313630727275420 wrote:
                                                Do we require medical certificates?

                                                You will find that a European national health card is going to help you when asked for proof of medical insurance, its free and used to be called E111. Accommodation we have a apartment in a hotel just outside Chania 100m from the sea and for 300 euros a month includes electricity,A/C,wifi internet,swimming pool,and if you want a cleaner twice a week all included,and there are many places like this around.
                                                BUT do listen to everyone work is very thin on the ground especially if you don`t speak Greek.
                                                So good luck to you both and stay on the forum and let us know how things are going.

                                                #28152
                                                latsida
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                                                    the EHIC is only meant for short stays and holidays not for permanent residence.
                                                    https://www.ehic.org.uk/Internet/home.do
                                                    The fact that Yiannis speaks Greek is their trump card,if I were them I would start an agency helping all the Expats with their problems with bureaucracy,form filling, understanding how things work and  coping with daily life here,   

                                                    #28177
                                                    stick
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                                                        The EHIC is good enough to get residency i know because i use it for that,10 euro translated signed and stamped by a solicitor.

                                                        #28200
                                                        latsida
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                                                            another site that explains the EHIC card
                                                            http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/staying-safe/travel-insurance/ehic
                                                            please note the words temporary visit

                                                            #28221
                                                            tinytino
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                                                                I have lived here in Malia fo 27 years with my Greek husband we have our own house so no rent, we have a couple of fields, so we have a lot of our own produce and our expenses are low compared to other people. Because of the work situation being very bad, now we have only 4-5 months work, it is very very hard making ends meet, many people, including my son and his girlfriend ,are finding that they have to leave here to have a better life…… remember the old saying, The other man’s grass is always greener…. stay where you are for now until things improve.. good luck

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                                                                Paul Neale
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                                                                    I understand your drive but the advice about taking off the rose tinted glasses is valid all be it a bit harsh.
                                                                    Summer work opportunities are diminishing and in the winter many locals and expat workers rely on government unemployment benefits. You will be competing for any work available in the winter and really unlikely to find any.
                                                                    Those that relied on their higher UK pensions now find the cost of living more than the UK.
                                                                    We have found the only way to make a success on this predominantly seasonal island is to create our own business opportunities but saying that we have to accumulate the bulk of our income from April to October to survive the winter.
                                                                    Be creative and think of a business the locals are not already doing. Tourism is still alive and kicking but is changing radically from the high volume cheap package 1970’s era. That market has now gone to countries like Turkey, Tunisia etc. This island has so much to offer but you need something that adds value.
                                                                    We started a property management business 6 years ago and are still going strong and will be looking for more not less part time staff for next season. If you want full time work my advice is invent your own business.
                                                                    Best of luck, Paul, Bluebay Property Management.

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