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        For those of you who may be interested, a petition has been raised on the UK government website requesting parliament to debate a 2nd Referendum on EU membership.

        Unlike the actual Referendum, the petition is open to all UK citizens. The website link is set out below.

        https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

        This email was circulated this evening amongst INCO Members in Agios Nikolaos.

        For your interest, more than 1.9m signatures have already been received.

        There is a trigger clause to have a second referendum on EU membership. It goes something like this:

        …. if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum…..

        But Parliament needs to be petitioned.

        Gerald
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        Tags: #Greece #EU #Brexit #UKReferendum #Brits #Crete

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            And I guess if this petition goes all the way and another referendum is held with luck the "whinging remainers" will get the answer they require this time but if they don’t they can always get another petition going – until they get the the "right" answer!! WTHell!!

            Get over it! We’re leaving, end of.

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                The #Brexit decision and the last comment is divisive.

                It is OK for the oldies to be emotionally satisfied but you will face huge disappointments ahead when the politicians cannot deliver, no matter which party will be in the Rump UK Parliament.

                Many of those older generation who decided to vote for Brexit, I predict will not see in their lifetime becoming truly "independent" again. The world has moved on. The youngsters understand we are in the throws of globalisation not isolationism.

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                        to anyone who knows anything about online polling and petitions, will be aware of the inevitable fake votes, signatures, spammers.. whatever. Trust the Government’s (and HofC) security to weed out the majority of culprits and adjust the running petition tally accordingly.

                        It still does not negate the now 3m+ who have voted.

                        The Express must have been desperate for a story.

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                            http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36634407

                            Looks like BBC News were desperate for a story too!

                            How many petitions do you know that got 3.5 million signatures in 48 hours – think about it!

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                                Accept the result and get on with it. It’s called democracy, something that the EU hasn’t practised for years.

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                                    Please note that the petition referred to was started by a "Leave" supporter, some time BEFORE the referendum. He was expecting a marginal "remain" win and wanted to try to head it off:
                                    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/26/europe/uk-second-referendum-petition/

                                    I think it highly unlikely that the government will do anything – especially since David Cameron has stated categorically that there will NOT be a second referendum.

                                    In any case, the Referendum result is considered "advisory" – not legally binding – so our illustrious PM could immediately state that he’s going to ignore it and it’s business as usual. I can’t see how it would affect him since he’s already stated that he’ll resign.

                                    However, maybe that’s just another lie like "I’ll submit Article 50 immediately if ‘Leave’ wins". He didn’t. In fact he’s doing nothing at all to save the economy. The entire planet is in limbo because of him. He has two choices – instigate Leave or confirm Remain – and he’s doing neither. Talk about fiddling while Rome burns!

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                                        he has already resigned as leader and his successor is in the process of being selected, Boris and Gove have ruined their chances and it looks like it will be Theresa May.
                                        Cameron would never invoke Article 50, he has passed that poisoned chalice on to his successor
                                        the decision however to hold the referendum will be his legacy.
                                        the whole thing is a shambles and the race hate and Zenophobia it has generated is a disgrace.

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                                            and now Farage has gone, you couldn’t make it up

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                                                Yes Nigel has resigned much to my great disappointment – the only man that could stand there and answer ANY question, not waffle around it but answer it, has gone – he spent his political career getting the idiots off our backs and he’s done it! I believe he has resigned so that he can concentrate on keeping a close eye now on what the EU get up to and speak up for the leavers if Brussels or the UK government start to backtrack. Thank you Nigel for opening up the corrupt world of the EU to me and millions of others and showing us what a shower of bullying fools have been running the show for far too long.

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                                                    If anyone was in any doubt regarding the REAL situation in vast parts of the UK at the moment, affecting REAL people, then watch last night’s Panorama on BBC1. For once ,from the beeb, a very factual and moving account with Adrian Childs

                                                    You will then understand why the vote went as it did. Nothing to do with racism or xenophobia, but real problems such as housing, education and healthcare provision. When you cannot get a doctors appointment within 3 weeks, I know i have tried, then something has to change.

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                                                        I never said that people voted the way they did because of race hate or xenophobia I was commenting on the incidents following the result which have been widely reported and condemned by Parliament .
                                                        I know many people who voted to leave the EU for varied and different reasons and I respect their decisions
                                                        We must now all try to get through this crisis as best we can. the pound is crashing, property funds suspended and the country is leaderless with no effective opposition. the leaders of Brexit have all disappeared and Mark Carney (Bank of England) seems to be the only person trying to get a grip of the situation.

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                                                            Oh Latsida please! Are you trying to tell us all that Mark Carney, out of the goodness of his heart has sent the British people a message of calm – he is an ex Goldman Sachs employee, so is his deputy in the BofE. So is Mario Draghi an ex Goldman Sachs employee, now enjoying top job in European Bank Commission in the EU – take a look at how the people who brought Europe to it’s knees in the 2008 crash, have been strategically placed into policy-making positions in the world of finance – please look at the bigger picture and read more on the internet, you know the stuff that the BBC DON’T want us to read/hear about. The EU fools have been fooled themselves by the "little people" (that’s us by the way, the ones who have to repay all the money that the likes of Goldman Sachs lost through their own greed) who now have access to the world on the internet and have become much better informed by the investigatory journalists who dig deep to find out what is really making the world go around! That’s why my hero is Nigel Farage who stood up to these arrogant people so many times in the EU parliament, not an easy task – but he is just being open and accountable about what goes on in this ridiculous den of iniquity in Brussels and thank goodness he has and others who won’t be trampled on, including all the "little people" who the arrogant ones thought were stupid too! The people of the UK – their game is up and even if the world is turned upside down for a while – don’t blame the leavers, blame the people who drove them to make the decision they did, when they realized the game was up.

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                                                                why the personal attack?
                                                                this is the reason that I rarely post on this or any other forum.
                                                                the UK has decided to leave, we now have to get the best possible deal.
                                                                and I hope that that can be achieved quickly and calmly

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                                                                    We have become too politically correct.
                                                                    Recriminations over Brexit? I certainly hope so.
                                                                    I wish people would call a spade a spade.
                                                                    Of course people are going to be aggrieved by the Brexit decision.
                                                                    Me for one as an expat in Greece just because I chose to retire in Europe not UK.
                                                                    I should be paid ALL benefits that I would be entitled to in UK. Not relegated to being a second class citizen.

                                                                    I recall no one complained loudly enough at the time when Prime Minister Brown sold the family jewels (gold reserves too cheaply) to prop up his massive indebtedness to keep paying out the huge overly bloated benefits to middle England. Conversely, now the Eton boys have gone too far with austerity pummelling the low income groups.

                                                                    UK has been in a financial mess for years. Glaswegians and their local economy simply couldn’t survive without England underwriting it. I am sure the same can be said for several UK regions also.

                                                                    So we ended up with Brexit”¦.

                                                                    The mess is going to get worse for years to come.

                                                                    Why should I be politically correct, a spade is a spade.

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                                                                        There’s nothing wrong in calling a spade a spade. The problem was that too many people were vilified for it by lilly – livered liberals which resulted in nobody saying anything in case their careers were ended and tagged as a racist. All of our public services, in particular, (i have worked all my life in one) have for years been paralysed with political correctness.
                                                                        The open door policy of uncontrolled immigration by Blair and Brown was the straw that broke the camels back. When Romania and Bulgaria acceded to the EU most of Europe had some sort of control on numbers arriving, but not the UK. Blair/Brown said there would be a few thousand. We know now it turned out to be millions. Look no further than this for the Brexit result.
                                                                        A far more damaging legacy than even the Iraq war for Blair. Totally changed the nature of the UK and now out of Europe as well.

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